Jobs at DOC: Kris Ramm, Science Advisor

Department of Conservation —  21/02/2014

Come behind the scenes and into the jobs, the challenges, the highlights, and the personalities of the people who work at the Department of Conservation (DOC).

Today we profile Kris Ramm, a Science Advisor in DOC’s Marine Species and Threats team.

At work

Some things I do in my job include… working with the fishing industry and other to reduce the bycatch of protected birds, mammals, sharks and invertebrates by commercial fisheries.

Kris Ramm giving a presentation to commercial fishers.

Giving a talk to commercial fishers on seabird mitigation – though it looks more like an air guitar competition

What this tends to mean is that I spend lots of time talking to fishermen about their interactions with protected marine species and trying to get them to think about how to reduce those interactions.

We also work a lot with fisheries observers training them in protected species identification so that we get better information about what is happening at sea.

This helps achieve DOC’s vision by… raising awareness and ultimately reducing bycatch of many of our protected species, including the less cute and cuddly ones like spine-tailed devil rays and basking sharks.

The best bit about my job is… getting around the country and talking to a wide range of people with a very wide range of views about marine conservation.

I get to have some very interesting debates with fishermen. A lot of the work is in explaining the value of these animals and just how fragile some of the populations are.

Because the work of the team is so varied I get to be a part of some really interesting and ever changing work.

Kris Ramm mountain biking at Makara Peak.

Struggling up the final hill at the last Makara Peak Relay

The awesome-est DOC moment I’ve had so far is… any time I’m out in the field to help remember why we do this in the first place. Maybe tracking little blue penguins on Adele Island in the Abel Tasman National Park. Spending the entire night waiting and listening out for those little critters then trying to be as gentle as you can while they’re doing their very best to slice your hands up.

The DOC (or previous DOC) employee that inspires or enthuses me most is… I have to pick two for this, Gen Spargo and Nick Fisentzidis out on Kapiti Island, wrangling tourists and keeping the island’s flora and fauna safe and happy. I’ve never met two people more passionate about conservation.

On a personal note

The song that always cheers me up is… Graceland – Paul Simon. I’ve got a pretty varied music taste but somehow keep coming back to that (the whole album actually).

My stomping ground is… the south coast of Wellington. Amazing diving (if not a tropical temperature) and awesome mountain bike tracks in the hills above.

My greatest sporting moment was… wakeboarding on a plank of wood while being towed by a speed boat in Antarctica. We were down there on a fishing boat for three months so had to occupy ourselves somehow.

Kris Ramm wakeboarding in the Ross Sea.

Attempts at wakeboarding in -20C water in the Ross Sea

In my spare time I… mountain bike… constantly… some would say obsessively, anywhere I can get and anytime I can get out. Riding the Heaphy Track earlier this year was a revelation about how much fun multi-day rides can be.

Kris Ramm's bike ready to take on the Heaphy Track.

Loaded down and ready to head off on the Heaphy Track

Before working at DOC I… worked as a fisheries observer on a whole range of different boats. My fist trip was two months on a Russian trawler, where only one of the 80 crew spoke any English, which made for a pretty steep learning curve—as did a diet mainly consisting of cottage cheese and sour cream.

Kris's dog Sky.

My trusty hound and riding/diving buddy

Deep and meaningful

My favourite quote is… Lead me not into temptation… I can find my own way.

The best piece of advice I’ve ever been given is… New Zealand is a nice place, you should go visit (that was 14 years ago).

In work and life I am motivated by… being outdoors. Doesn’t matter what I’m doing, just being outside and getting to enjoy this amazing country.

My conservation advice to New Zealanders is… get out into the water and experience what we have, if more people do that, more people care and the conservation just grows from that.

Question of the week…

What three appliances in your home would you not want to live without?
Easy! Coffee machine, coffee grinder, sliding compound mitre saw (just because it’s awesome).

One response to Jobs at DOC: Kris Ramm, Science Advisor


    There should be a “bring your dog to work day” very cute.